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#1 OFFLINE   NOKSUKOU

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Posted 11 May 2010 - 01:48 PM

hmmm i was and still are many times in da PIs ... so most of times in AC in many bars even in bars that seems only to catering Asians (Jap,Kor ...) and i never saw and feelt that they have kids in the clubs /Bars may some is finding a way around and is 17 .. can be maybe but not sure but that you see in Bars kids with a age of 14 or so i dont belive that ,never seen that and no one of my friends.
So if you want to be safe .. stay away from freelancers or Date in Asia meetings and everthing will be fine ...

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:Fuck_Knows: but 18 is legal in the PIs ...
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Posted 12 May 2010 - 02:28 AM

First off, there is no national ID system in the Philippines! Identity (for example when applying for work) is confirmed through a complicated process of presenting your birth certificate, getting an NBI clearance, etc etc. ID cards on the other hand, can be purchased anywhere, and by themselves prove neither identity nor age.

The sad truth is that a large percentage of bar girls in the Philippines is under 18. Bars that rely heavily on ASIAN tourism (Korean, Japanese) might even have half their girls in the 14-16 year old range! Of course most of these ladies will have ID that says they are 18.

The best way to stay safe is to barfine women who are visibly over 20. if you play with fire often enough you will get burned. The amount of money an underage bargirl will earn by scamming you and colluding with the police is far greater than what she makes from the barfine! And what if it's her last day at work? Wouldnt YOU like to quit with a nice fat bonus from a scam?

So please, trust neither bars, nor ID checks - just trust the head thats on your shoulders.


yes, i agree with what un4given had mentioned. I personally knew of a girl working in a bar who's under 18 while the id states shes 18yrs old. Apparently the bar owner was not aware of her real age as told by her. Never trust a bar or bar girls 100%.
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#3 OFFLINE   tony o shan

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Posted 20 May 2010 - 04:36 PM

my next trip in Sept/Oct will be my first to the Phills..have done Thialand,Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam so the advice here from seasoned travellers is very useful. Any other tips are welcome...one can never be too careful not to wlak into a
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 12:26 AM

Be nice and polite to all hotel staff. Smile and greet them and dont treat them as if they are invisible. Tip in the hotel bar/restaurant. Maybe even tip the cleaning staff if you run across them when they are doing their job, or if you need extra towels. They understand why single men go to the Phils and hotel staff may end up protecting you if a bargirl goes crazy on you, or if some other situation arises. You want to make sure your girl is legal age before you barfine her. When you hear about bad things going down, it usually happens to drunk, rude, and stupid people.
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Posted 30 June 2010 - 12:28 AM

First off, there is no national ID system in the Philippines! Identity (for example when applying for work) is confirmed through a complicated process of presenting your birth certificate, getting an NBI clearance, etc etc. ID cards on the other hand, can be purchased anywhere, and by themselves prove neither identity nor age.

The sad truth is that a large percentage of bar girls in the Philippines is under 18. Bars that rely heavily on ASIAN tourism (Korean, Japanese) might even have half their girls in the 14-16 year old range! Of course most of these ladies will have ID that says they are 18.

The best way to stay safe is to barfine women who are visibly over 20. if you play with fire often enough you will get burned. The amount of money an underage bargirl will earn by scamming you and colluding with the police is far greater than what she makes from the barfine! And what if it's her last day at work? Wouldnt YOU like to quit with a nice fat bonus from a scam?

So please, trust neither bars, nor ID checks - just trust the head thats on your shoulders.

Good Advice!
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Posted 03 July 2010 - 02:34 PM

Sorry, but hotel prices on Fields are already too expensive and the idea that you have to continuously tip their employees is unacceptable, although certainly being nice and polite goes without saying... the age of consent thing is very worrying if there are no reliable ID cards other than the licence issued for go-go dancers by the police, which is based on the birth certificate (younger sisters using older sister's cert?). Problem is all the new, attractive gals seem to be in the 18-20 year-old age range, and a lot of them could pass for younger than 18. The other side, anyone who gets set-up will probably rant and rave on forums like this, so the bars have self-interest in stopping it.
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Posted 25 August 2010 - 09:11 AM

The best way to stay safe is to barfine women who are visibly over 20.
Good advice!! Also older ladies are more mature and experienced. :GoldenSmile1:
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Posted 07 October 2010 - 01:35 PM

Interesting. New to this board, but not so new in Pataya addicts! Jee go to all to get trusted again, lol!

Now, I am concerned about this. I am dating a dia girl, who is very nice for months. But her concern is that she has no ID. I trust her, but I hope she will not be refused in the hotel we are staying!

Th" hotel is not in Angeles, but in Cebu city, the girl is almost 21, but looks young.
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Posted 07 October 2010 - 02:01 PM

In my last 8 night stay in 2 of the supposedly better hotels Dollhouse and ABC not once did they check a girls id that I entered with. In the other hand in BKK I always stayed at Le Fenix and every single girl they took her id and then when she left to get it they called me to make sure all was well.
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Posted 12 October 2010 - 05:29 AM

why would you want a gal under 18? The age is 18 though. do not go with a street girl as you could be set-up very easily. Stick with the bars and or massage parlors. Many of the 18 year olds look younger if that is what you are into.


Just for reference not all countries are the US. In my home country 16 is legal and when I was at University I got a fair amount of 16-yo tail. They got a boyfriend with a car and access to parties and alcohol.

That's why I tend to go for "spinners" (small breasts, and more cute than sexy) so I have to be especially careful in the PI. That being said I've never had trouble finding a bar girl who was my type and over the age limit. That's what I like about the PI, there's a great range of girls and body types.

If you're serious about a girl and want to be sure of her age then ask to see her birth or baptism certificate, the baptism certificate being the more reliable of the two since forging a state document is pretty easy and just gets you sent to jail, while the RC church documents are much harder to forge and will get you excommunicated ... which is for many filipinos a fate worse than death and will mean being shut out of their community too. The church still weilds a scary amount of influence in the PI.
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Posted 12 October 2010 - 07:01 AM

Just for reference not all countries are the US. In my home country 16 is legal and when I was at University I got a fair amount of 16-yo tail. They got a boyfriend with a car and access to parties and alcohol.

That's why I tend to go for "spinners" (small breasts, and more cute than sexy) so I have to be especially careful in the PI. That being said I've never had trouble finding a bar girl who was my type and over the age limit. That's what I like about the PI, there's a great range of girls and body types.

If you're serious about a girl and want to be sure of her age then ask to see her birth or baptism certificate, the baptism certificate being the more reliable of the two since forging a state document is pretty easy and just gets you sent to jail, while the RC church documents are much harder to forge and will get you excommunicated ... which is for many filipinos a fate worse than death and will mean being shut out of their community too. The church still weilds a scary amount of influence in the PI.


On her birthcertificate is stated that she is over legal age, and is a man. So how to be sure about anything.
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Posted 26 October 2010 - 11:09 PM

I did stay at Clarkton hotel in July 2009 They never ever checked an ID of my BF. On the other hand, it is well possible they knew the girls, 'cuz I kept bringing girls from the nearby bars, some less than a mile from the hotel. All of the girls I BFed had bar IDs, but at Clarkton the receptionist never asked neither for the sandard nor the bar ID.

I spent there 3 weeks and never saw any trouble whatsoever. The hotel was clean and comfy, everyone friendly. It was my newbie trip, I was very very careful. Good time altogether, sure as hell I'm comming back there asap.

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 11:53 PM

Be nice and polite to all hotel staff. Smile and greet them and dont treat them as if they are invisible. Tip in the hotel bar/restaurant. Maybe even tip the cleaning staff if you run across them when they are doing their job, or if you need extra towels. They understand why single men go to the Phils and hotel staff may end up protecting you if a bargirl goes crazy on you, or if some other situation arises. You want to make sure your girl is legal age before you barfine her. When you hear about bad things going down, it usually happens to drunk, rude, and stupid people.



EXACTLY!!! This is they way around everywhere. If you are perceived as a "nice man", and avoid losing face by drinking too much and losing your temper, you should be OK.

A small tip - if you can learn a few phrases in Tagalog, it will help very much. I remember how much the cleaning lady apreciated when I greeted her with a broad smile and "magandang umaga" in the morning and thanked her with polite "maramig salamat po" when she did something for me. Everyone of course speaks English to some extent in AC, but a few words in Tagalog open hearts of the people.

Hehe, in the bars the girls loved when I chatted them up with my two icebreaker lines in Tagalog that I learned before I went there. There are several fun crash courses of Tagalog (and some serious ones) for free on YouTube. Have a look at them, it's fun!

:) Greg
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Posted 13 December 2010 - 10:24 AM

It is quite common for girls under 18 to borrow the ID card of a cousin or sister to work at a bar. In this case no chance for us to detect the underage.
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Posted 20 December 2010 - 09:58 PM

why would you want a gal under 18? The age is 18 though. do not go with a street girl as you could be set-up very easily. Stick with the bars and or massage parlors. Many of the 18 year olds look younger if that is what you are into.

I have come across a few girls that claim to be 18/20 years of age.In the bars the girls may look older because of the lighting conditions.I know in the past some bars have planted girls that are just under 18 years of age and set foreign customers up..knock on the hotel room door at 2am/3am in the morning with the police and a supposed relative..
My advice is NEVER to take a gamble if the girl does look younger than 18 years of age.
Be Safe and NOT Sorry...Use your head and not think through your cock.
I have come across a few girls in Cebu I have been doubtful about once seen the girl outside the bar in normal lighting conditions.Its better to loose a bar fine and no sex than end up paying thousands of pesos for nothing.
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Posted 23 December 2010 - 05:22 PM

It is quite common for girls under 18 to borrow the ID card of a cousin or sister to work at a bar. In this case no chance for us to detect the underage.

Sometimes they don't even need to borrow an ID as some bars will provide one for the girl when she starts work.

Edited by Ling King, 24 December 2010 - 06:15 AM.

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 04:06 AM

Guys, just a gentle reminder of one of our rules.


9. No posting of pictures or references of a sexual nature with anyone under the age of 18 years is permitted. No exceptions.


Ive had to remove a few posts which have very clearly breached that rule.

Please, please please think about the above rule before you post anything that could breach the above rule and possibly incriminate yourself as well.

Just trying to protect you all and the board.
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Posted 04 January 2011 - 04:12 PM

I've found that few check IDs ... the only one in my experience is Medgar Executive Apartelle, and that was after a guest was the victim of an underage scam/shakedown.

I stay at the Pacific Breeze. The only check there is if you don't accompany your barfine out of the place in the morning. They call you to see that everything's ok.



They call the room at central park too. I liked it, I liked it a lot.
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Posted 04 January 2011 - 04:15 PM

In some of those bars in AC it's also a good idea to check ID to make sure they are under 60.
I think that shagging OAPs is sick.

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Thanks mate, that got me laughing!
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Posted 22 March 2011 - 04:14 PM

My question is if my hotel was raided and I EWR a 20 yr old on ID and later identified as 17 yr old who would be in trouble? Me or The Bar or the Girl or all the above. Do not want to go to Ponoy Jail... Visited a relative once in Jail. Very very bad place. Do NOT go.... Simple answer.

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Posted 23 March 2011 - 11:49 AM

not knowing is not a defense, you would be hauled off or likely asked for a high amount of pesos! Girl won't be in trouble because she is the "victim". Better to get girls from the bars as they are almost always old enough.


My question is if my hotel was raided and I EWR a 20 yr old on ID and later identified as 17 yr old who would be in trouble? Me or The Bar or the Girl or all the above. Do not want to go to Ponoy Jail... Visited a relative once in Jail. Very very bad place. Do NOT go.... Simple answer.

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Posted 07 May 2011 - 03:36 PM

My question is if my hotel was raided and I EWR a 20 yr old on ID and later identified as 17 yr old who would be in trouble? Me or The Bar or the Girl or all the above. Do not want to go to Ponoy Jail... Visited a relative once in Jail. Very very bad place. Do NOT go.... Simple answer.

Rusty

Who says that a judge will follow your argumentation?
As a matter of fact you are having sex with an underage girl and you will be in for it. She might be in for using a fake ID.
Your judge might argue that these are 2 completely different stories.
So using a fake ID and your not knowing will not be accepted as an excuse.
As said before, she will be considered the victim and you the evil guy.
I am not an expert on legal matters in the PI but that is to the best of my knowledge the common approach in most of SEA countries.
Better to not come into a situation where you have to create an explanation of why and how an adult male was fooled and tricked by an innocent child ... and what not.
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Posted 07 May 2011 - 04:57 PM

From my experience in the PI, no matter the circumstances and how you got there, if you are foreigner and caught breaking the law it's gonna cost you. Last year when Mr Lim and his band of crooks raided the LA Cafe in Manila to score points on their imaginary anit-human trafficking campaign, they rolled up everyone and the amount of the bribe you had to pay to be let go was based on how much they figured they could get out of you. Some of the girls who in there at the time spent 2 or 3 days with the cops because they didn't have the 2000 peso to buy their way out.

One of the other scams to look out for involves you picking up a girl who is over 18 but she is later joined by or will come back later with her friend/cousin who will ask to use your shower/bathroom. As soon as the underage girl is naked in the bathroom, the "cops" (who may or may not actually be cops) show up to bust you with a naked underage girl in your room and you are screwed.
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Posted 09 May 2011 - 01:40 PM

senate has passed legistration to lower age of consent from 18 to 16

comes into effect 1st sept 2011

doubt if AC will change rules re bars
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Posted 10 May 2011 - 01:18 AM

senate has passed legistration to lower age of consent from 18 to 16

comes into effect 1st sept 2011

doubt if AC will change rules re bars


Age of consent is often for lovers, but if money changes hands it is higher. Anyone from the states that goes with one under 18 for money is asking for trouble. The law here states the age of consent i same as your home country and state, or the visiting country, which ever is higher... Japan I understand is 13.. but don't count on it.
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